Comments on: Back Pain…& the short right leg syndrome http://massagemag.com/massage-blog/tech-talk/2009/07/15/back-pain%e2%80%a6-the-short-right-leg-syndrome/ ...Tools of the Trade Thu, 17 Feb 2011 20:37:39 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Pam Richards http://massagemag.com/massage-blog/tech-talk/2009/07/15/back-pain%e2%80%a6-the-short-right-leg-syndrome/comment-page-1/#comment-711 Pam Richards Tue, 15 Jun 2010 00:27:00 +0000 http://massagemag.com/massage-blog/tech-talk/?p=19#comment-711 Is this the same Bob Fisher that practiced in Northwest Washington, D. C.? If so I'm a former patient and would enjoy hearing from you. My email is: pidgegoddess@aol.com. Glad you're still into bioenergetics! Is this the same Bob Fisher that practiced in Northwest Washington, D. C.? If so I’m a former patient and would enjoy hearing from you. My email is: pidgegoddess@aol.com. Glad you’re still into bioenergetics!

]]> By: Erik Dalton http://massagemag.com/massage-blog/tech-talk/2009/07/15/back-pain%e2%80%a6-the-short-right-leg-syndrome/comment-page-1/#comment-549 Erik Dalton Wed, 16 Sep 2009 21:11:18 +0000 http://massagemag.com/massage-blog/tech-talk/?p=19#comment-549 Blessings to you Ken...thx for the interesting post. I'm headed out the door for an Atlanta Myoskeletal workshop and then on to Orlando for the AMTA National Convention so I'll respond when I return....keep the passion my friend! Blessings to you Ken…thx for the interesting post.

I’m headed out the door for an Atlanta Myoskeletal workshop and then on to Orlando for the AMTA National Convention so I’ll respond when I return….keep the passion my friend!

]]> By: Ken Nelson http://massagemag.com/massage-blog/tech-talk/2009/07/15/back-pain%e2%80%a6-the-short-right-leg-syndrome/comment-page-1/#comment-547 Ken Nelson Tue, 15 Sep 2009 19:38:10 +0000 http://massagemag.com/massage-blog/tech-talk/?p=19#comment-547 I just assessed a new client. She had a fall ten years ago and has been in high chronic pain since the accident. There is no structural damage. Left ilium anteriorly rotated approx. 11/2". Standard muscle,fascia and joint involvement. Question? She is in postpartum, delivering 2 weeks ago. Is it appropriate to work with the pelvis for sacral base decompression,sacral roll or is it contraindicated for a period of time until tissues normalize? Thankyou Ken ps I just received the video series a few days ago. Incredible!! the above client called for an appointment a few days earlier with sciatic pain. I spent four hours on disk 1 and 4. Perfect timing--first client! But it is amazing what knowledge can provide. A month ago, I would not have recognized the problem in the prone position and would not have assessed by landmarks on sacrum. Blessings I just assessed a new client. She had a fall ten years ago and has been in high chronic pain since the accident. There is no structural damage. Left ilium anteriorly rotated approx. 11/2″. Standard muscle,fascia and joint involvement.
Question? She is in postpartum, delivering 2 weeks ago. Is it appropriate to work with the pelvis for sacral base decompression,sacral roll or is it contraindicated for a period of time until tissues normalize?

Thankyou
Ken
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I just received the video series a few days ago. Incredible!! the above client called for an appointment a few days earlier with sciatic pain. I spent four hours on disk 1 and 4. Perfect timing–first client! But it is amazing what knowledge can provide. A month ago, I would not have recognized the problem in the prone position and would not have assessed by landmarks on sacrum. Blessings

]]> By: Erik Dalton http://massagemag.com/massage-blog/tech-talk/2009/07/15/back-pain%e2%80%a6-the-short-right-leg-syndrome/comment-page-1/#comment-535 Erik Dalton Tue, 01 Sep 2009 03:33:39 +0000 http://massagemag.com/massage-blog/tech-talk/?p=19#comment-535 Hey Ken...I like the idea of having them check their own anatomical landmarks between sessions and offering specific home-retraining exercises that can be done to help keep them in a balanced state...nice! Hey Ken…I like the idea of having them check their own anatomical landmarks between sessions and offering specific home-retraining exercises that can be done to help keep them in a balanced state…nice!

]]> By: LINDA http://massagemag.com/massage-blog/tech-talk/2009/07/15/back-pain%e2%80%a6-the-short-right-leg-syndrome/comment-page-1/#comment-532 LINDA Sun, 30 Aug 2009 22:47:15 +0000 http://massagemag.com/massage-blog/tech-talk/?p=19#comment-532 So far I have not heard any mention of checking the height of knees when patient is laying down and knees are bent for short leg syndrome. If when laying down and legs are straight the patient is level, but bending the knees shows the left knee higher, what does this mean? Is this test valid? Thanks in advance, Linda So far I have not heard any mention of checking the height of knees when patient is laying down and knees are bent for short leg syndrome.

If when laying down and legs are straight the patient is level, but bending the knees shows the left knee higher, what does this mean?

Is this test valid? Thanks in advance, Linda

]]> By: Ken Nelson http://massagemag.com/massage-blog/tech-talk/2009/07/15/back-pain%e2%80%a6-the-short-right-leg-syndrome/comment-page-1/#comment-531 Ken Nelson Sun, 30 Aug 2009 13:55:13 +0000 http://massagemag.com/massage-blog/tech-talk/?p=19#comment-531 Early in my practice, my wife went fairly often to the chiropractor for pain in the mid thoracic. I was studying about the effects of hip rotation and short/long leg syndrome. This was exactly the situation my wife was experiencing. She did not have facets that were stuck. I follow your assessment and treatment protocol. she has now been without back pain since then. Like all of us, I have a number of clients with back pain. I first assess all clients for short leg and hip rotation. I treat as protol. I also instruct my clients how to check themselves daily for balance: head, shoulders, elbows, hips, knees while looking in a mirror. I instruct them how to check their ASIS prone and how to perform self NMT for muscle shortness and tension. Most clients just come in for a quick mobilization. They feel much better, more active and have fewer insidences of back pain and stress. Early in my practice, my wife went fairly often to the chiropractor for pain in the mid thoracic. I was studying about the effects of hip rotation and short/long leg syndrome. This was exactly the situation my wife was experiencing. She did not have facets that were stuck. I follow your assessment and treatment protocol. she has now been without back pain since then. Like all of us, I have a number of clients with back pain. I first assess all clients for short leg and hip rotation. I treat as protol. I also instruct my clients how to check themselves daily for balance: head, shoulders, elbows, hips, knees while looking in a mirror. I instruct them how to check their ASIS prone and how to perform self NMT for muscle shortness and tension. Most clients just come in for a quick mobilization. They feel much better, more active and have fewer insidences of back pain and stress.

]]> By: Joel Romig http://massagemag.com/massage-blog/tech-talk/2009/07/15/back-pain%e2%80%a6-the-short-right-leg-syndrome/comment-page-1/#comment-525 Joel Romig Wed, 19 Aug 2009 21:33:27 +0000 http://massagemag.com/massage-blog/tech-talk/?p=19#comment-525 I have noticed the link to driving as well. In older clients, especially women, who rarely or never drive, I do not see such a prevelance of short right leg syndrome. The pelvis tends to be bilaterally roated, or the left leg is just as likely as the right to be short. I also fail to find the strong prevelance of short right legs in children and adolescents. This indicates to me a strong link to driving posture. I have noticed the link to driving as well. In older clients, especially women, who rarely or never drive, I do not see such a prevelance of short right leg syndrome. The pelvis tends to be bilaterally roated, or the left leg is just as likely as the right to be short. I also fail to find the strong prevelance of short right legs in children and adolescents. This indicates to me a strong link to driving posture.

]]> By: Robert Fisher http://massagemag.com/massage-blog/tech-talk/2009/07/15/back-pain%e2%80%a6-the-short-right-leg-syndrome/comment-page-1/#comment-523 Robert Fisher Mon, 17 Aug 2009 06:01:20 +0000 http://massagemag.com/massage-blog/tech-talk/?p=19#comment-523 Yeah, the pattern is there amongst all ages. You can do the muscle testing with them as well. It's a fun way to get them involved and comfortable too. As I mentioned earlier, my creative CA clients actually pull up short on the left leg. So I'll have to see if the rotations you mentioned are along the leg discrepancy, or more right rotated, the same as the others. Yeah, the pattern is there amongst all ages. You can do the muscle testing with them as well. It’s a fun way to get them involved and comfortable too.

As I mentioned earlier, my creative CA clients actually pull up short on the left leg. So I’ll have to see if the rotations you mentioned are along the leg discrepancy, or more right rotated, the same as the others.

]]> By: John J. Ray http://massagemag.com/massage-blog/tech-talk/2009/07/15/back-pain%e2%80%a6-the-short-right-leg-syndrome/comment-page-1/#comment-522 John J. Ray Mon, 17 Aug 2009 04:05:30 +0000 http://massagemag.com/massage-blog/tech-talk/?p=19#comment-522 I haven't noticed the same patterns in children. I work on kids with ADHD and other issues periodically. I haven’t noticed the same patterns in children. I work on kids with ADHD and other issues periodically.

]]> By: Erik Dalton http://massagemag.com/massage-blog/tech-talk/2009/07/15/back-pain%e2%80%a6-the-short-right-leg-syndrome/comment-page-1/#comment-521 Erik Dalton Sun, 16 Aug 2009 13:24:00 +0000 http://massagemag.com/massage-blog/tech-talk/?p=19#comment-521 You guys are coming up with some interesting observations...keep up the chatter. You guys are coming up with some interesting observations…keep up the chatter.

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